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T O P I C R E V I E WSulkyarcherWhat aspects, signs, houses, planets, degrees, or whatever, may indicate a person has a hard life?Pisces PlutonianI'm pretty sure everyone has a hard part of life somewhere in their chart, but I'm assuming you mean everything in their life is terrible like diseases, lack of love life, loneliness, and poverty, right?diamondbabyI don't think there is a specific "hard life" sign & house placement and aspect. Generally speaking these influences can contribute to someone having a hard life in my opinion:- Lots of hard aspects (squares, oppositions) in the natal chart- Hard Saturn aspects to personal planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). - Badly aspected personal planets in CapricornThe house that Saturn occupies in a natal chart shows the area of life where one might encounter difficulties/hardships/restrictions/delays.For example:Saturn in the 1st house: self-esteem and body image issuesSaturn in the 2nd house: financial issues/struggles/povertySaturn in the 6th house: health issuesSaturn in the 7th house: relationship issuesetc.goddessinworld quote:Originally posted by diamondbaby:- Lots of hard aspects (squares, oppositions) in the natal chart- Hard Saturn aspects to personal planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). - Badly aspected personal planets in CapricornI have all three of these and I can confirm i would say definitely hard aspects to moon and the sun, but especially the moon since it is the most vulnerable part of us.Sulkyarcher quote:Originally posted by Pisces Plutonian:I'm pretty sure everyone has a hard part of life somewhere in their chart, but I'm assuming you mean everything in their life is terrible like diseases, lack of love life, loneliness, and poverty, right?Yes, more than one area, like at least three. And the hardship lasts at least 20 years. It could be the person overcomes their hardship and later on has more ease in life, even thriving. I'm putting no limits on the thriving part!But yes, a long period, usually decades, of hardship.Sulkyarcher quote:Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: Yes, more than one area, like at least three. And the hardship lasts at least 20 years. It could be the person overcomes their hardship and later on has more ease in life, even thriving. I'm putting no limits on the thriving part!But yes, a long period, usually decades, of hardship.Sulkyarcher quote:Originally posted by diamondbaby:I don't think there is a specific "hard life" sign & house placement and aspect. Generally speaking these influences can contribute to someone having a hard life in my opinion:- Lots of hard aspects (squares, oppositions) in the natal chart- Hard Saturn aspects to personal planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). - Badly aspected personal planets in CapricornThe house that Saturn occupies in a natal chart shows the area of life where one might encounter difficulties/hardships/restrictions/delays.For example:Saturn in the 1st house: self-esteem and body image issuesSaturn in the 2nd house: financial issues/struggles/povertySaturn in the 6th house: health issuesSaturn in the 7th house: relationship issuesetc.Yup, I have lots of aspects to Saturn. Also, squares and oppositions!outofideasI have a pretty difficult chart with significant conjunctions, squares, oppositions and inconjunctions (also known as paradoxes).11th house stellium in Capricorn, with Saturn in it, opposing my poor Chiron.NN in the 1st house, square my MC/IC, Moon and Venus.Venus opposite Jupiter and Moon, opposing my MC.NN and SN rulers both tightly conjunct in the 11th house (Neptune and Mercury) in a nasty square with Mars.Saturn and Chiron inconjunct Moon and Venus.Blech.Pisces PlutonianI would think Jupiter and Saturn conjunct and many afflicted planets in the 6th and 12th house would be the cause.StubbornVirgo YellowGerberaSometimes I feel my life isn't as smooth sailing as ours.. I have Saturn in 12H, squaring my luminaries plus Mercury, opposite chiron (but not that tight) in 6H.However, definition of a hard life is really objective so I'm not sure how my life can be compared to others properly? I wasn't born in war-torn countries, or go through tragedies, abused or raped... etc... I am managing to work and live everyday so I can't complain that I'm having a hard life really... next to neptuneRemember the saying that some people are just born under a lucky star? Well, thats not me.I have afflicted moon in pisces, 10th house, and my chart is kinda made up of oppositions and squares (3 t-squares, involving saturn, neptune and uranus in capricorn) - in 6th house as well!I also got a scorpio venus on top of that, my only planet that receives nice aspects.... but being in detriment it just mess everything even more up. My life has not been great until now, lets just put it that way. Everyday is almost like a struggle, but besides from that, I'm actually doing ok (I guess). I mean, I'm under education, got great friends and my economy is good as well.... my familiy and love life is really bad though, and my childhood was really bad as well, which takes a life-time to move on from (I'm also heavy cancer-influenced so stuck in the past) These days I'm trying to work on my self esteem and cleaning up my mind (and heart) its not easy, but I will get there someday Sulkyarcher quote:Originally posted by next to neptune:Remember the saying that some people are just born under a lucky star? Well, thats not me.I have afflicted moon in pisces, 10th house, and my chart is kinda made up of oppositions and squares (3 t-squares, involving saturn, neptune and uranus in capricorn) - in 6th house as well!I also got a scorpio venus on top of that, my only planet that receives nice aspects.... but being in detriment it just mess everything even more up. My life has not been great until now, lets just put it that way. Everyday is almost like a struggle, but besides from that, I'm actually doing ok (I guess). I mean, I'm under education, got great friends and my economy is good as well.... my familiy and love life is really bad though, and my childhood was really bad as well, which takes a life-time to move on from (I'm also heavy cancer-influenced so stuck in the past) These days I'm trying to work on my self esteem and cleaning up my mind (and heart) its not easy, but I will get there someday What decade of your life are you in?
The house that Saturn occupies in a natal chart shows the area of life where one might encounter difficulties/hardships/restrictions/delays.For example:Saturn in the 1st house: self-esteem and body image issuesSaturn in the 2nd house: financial issues/struggles/povertySaturn in the 6th house: health issuesSaturn in the 7th house: relationship issuesetc.
quote:Originally posted by diamondbaby:- Lots of hard aspects (squares, oppositions) in the natal chart- Hard Saturn aspects to personal planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). - Badly aspected personal planets in Capricorn
I have all three of these and I can confirm
i would say definitely hard aspects to moon and the sun, but especially the moon since it is the most vulnerable part of us.
quote:Originally posted by Pisces Plutonian:I'm pretty sure everyone has a hard part of life somewhere in their chart, but I'm assuming you mean everything in their life is terrible like diseases, lack of love life, loneliness, and poverty, right?
Yes, more than one area, like at least three. And the hardship lasts at least 20 years. It could be the person overcomes their hardship and later on has more ease in life, even thriving. I'm putting no limits on the thriving part!
But yes, a long period, usually decades, of hardship.
quote:Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: Yes, more than one area, like at least three. And the hardship lasts at least 20 years. It could be the person overcomes their hardship and later on has more ease in life, even thriving. I'm putting no limits on the thriving part!But yes, a long period, usually decades, of hardship.
quote:Originally posted by diamondbaby:I don't think there is a specific "hard life" sign & house placement and aspect. Generally speaking these influences can contribute to someone having a hard life in my opinion:- Lots of hard aspects (squares, oppositions) in the natal chart- Hard Saturn aspects to personal planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). - Badly aspected personal planets in CapricornThe house that Saturn occupies in a natal chart shows the area of life where one might encounter difficulties/hardships/restrictions/delays.For example:Saturn in the 1st house: self-esteem and body image issuesSaturn in the 2nd house: financial issues/struggles/povertySaturn in the 6th house: health issuesSaturn in the 7th house: relationship issuesetc.
Yup, I have lots of aspects to Saturn. Also, squares and oppositions!
11th house stellium in Capricorn, with Saturn in it, opposing my poor Chiron.
NN in the 1st house, square my MC/IC, Moon and Venus.
Venus opposite Jupiter and Moon, opposing my MC.
NN and SN rulers both tightly conjunct in the 11th house (Neptune and Mercury) in a nasty square with Mars.
Saturn and Chiron inconjunct Moon and Venus.
Blech.
However, definition of a hard life is really objective so I'm not sure how my life can be compared to others properly? I wasn't born in war-torn countries, or go through tragedies, abused or raped... etc... I am managing to work and live everyday so I can't complain that I'm having a hard life really...
I have afflicted moon in pisces, 10th house, and my chart is kinda made up of oppositions and squares (3 t-squares, involving saturn, neptune and uranus in capricorn) - in 6th house as well!
I also got a scorpio venus on top of that, my only planet that receives nice aspects.... but being in detriment it just mess everything even more up.
My life has not been great until now, lets just put it that way. Everyday is almost like a struggle, but besides from that, I'm actually doing ok (I guess). I mean, I'm under education, got great friends and my economy is good as well.... my familiy and love life is really bad though, and my childhood was really bad as well, which takes a life-time to move on from (I'm also heavy cancer-influenced so stuck in the past)
These days I'm trying to work on my self esteem and cleaning up my mind (and heart) its not easy, but I will get there someday
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune:Remember the saying that some people are just born under a lucky star? Well, thats not me.I have afflicted moon in pisces, 10th house, and my chart is kinda made up of oppositions and squares (3 t-squares, involving saturn, neptune and uranus in capricorn) - in 6th house as well!I also got a scorpio venus on top of that, my only planet that receives nice aspects.... but being in detriment it just mess everything even more up. My life has not been great until now, lets just put it that way. Everyday is almost like a struggle, but besides from that, I'm actually doing ok (I guess). I mean, I'm under education, got great friends and my economy is good as well.... my familiy and love life is really bad though, and my childhood was really bad as well, which takes a life-time to move on from (I'm also heavy cancer-influenced so stuck in the past) These days I'm trying to work on my self esteem and cleaning up my mind (and heart) its not easy, but I will get there someday
What decade of your life are you in?
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